Well, I certainly seem to think so.
Case scenario, Delhomme finds himself a free agent. He's 34, he has big game experience, he's efficient in the 4th Quarter. But does that mean he'd automatically start on at least half the other teams? It is a myth among Panther fans, since Delhomme is truly overrated in Panther Nation.
With 31 other candidates, let's weed out the OBVIOUS eliminations...
New England (Tom Brady: 'nuff said)
Pittsburgh (Ben Roethlisberger: 2X SB winning QB)
Chicago (Jay Cutler: They just procured a prolific passer, like they would let him rot on the bench)
New Orleans (Drew Brees: Mr. 5000 passing yards)
Green Bay (Aaron Rodgers: 90+ QB rating)
Philadelphia (Donovan McNabb)
Indianapolis (Peyton Manning)
Atlanta (Matt Ryan)
Arizona (Kurt Warner: If they're looking for a long term future at QB, they're not going to replace a late 30s QB with a mid 30s QB. Delhomme would just be a stop gap)
New York Giants: (Eli Manning: SB MVP QB)
Cincinnati (Carson Palmer)
Baltimore (Joe Flacco: Rookie threw for 60% and nearly 3000 yards in just his rookie season)
Kansas City (Matt Cassel is Pioli's boy)
Oakland (Jamarcus Russell and Jeff Garcia. No I don't think they would be interested)
Redskins (Jason Campbell: Delhomme wouldn't be much of an improvement, so not worth the risk of dropping a guy who has years left in his tank)
Cowboys (Tony Romo: It's the Romo show there)
Houston (Matt Schaub: one of the strongest elements on their team)
San Diego (Philip Rivers: Not going anywhere)
Ok so far that's 18 teams out of the way. 13 left.
Seattle
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
NY Jets
Buffalo
Miami
St Louis
Jacksonville
Tennessee
Denver
Detroit
Minnesota
San Francisco
Mmmkay, now out of all of those, lets drop the teams that use the West Coast offense. Jake is not a West Coast QB, and what fucking team in their right mind would start a newly acquired QB who is in his mid-30s and has only one playbook ingrained in his head? He just wouldn't be efficient as a WC QB, he needs a solid running game.
Minnesota
Seattle
Tampa Bay
St Louis
So who's left?
Cleveland
NY Jets
Jacksonville
Denver
Detroit
San Francisco
Buffalo
Tennessee
Miami
Time to nitpick
As far as Buffalo is concerned, Trent Edwards looks like their guy. Delhomme would only come in to back him up and Trent would have to suck in order to get benched. In Miami, you would think he would fit in, because Dan Henning runs the offense there and we now ole' Dan very well. However, the "veteran" role is filled with Chad Pennington, and Chad Henne is the future. The Dolphins braintrust also has declared Pennington the starter for the 2009 season. So he wouldn't just walk in and take the job. In Cleveland, Brady Quinn has been waiting in the wings for his opportunity to arrive, it's mainly between him and Derek Anderson. For Jacksonville, it could be a QB battle but Delhomme is not a clear favorite over David Garrard, a guy who knows the playbook in Jacksonville. Kerry Collins pretty much did the same thing Delhomme did so I don't know why they would bring 2 of the same type QBs for one to back up the other, by the time Collins' starting at QB ends Delhomme would probably be too old anyway.
Denver
Detroit
San Fran
NY Jets
These are pretty much the only teams he'd have a very good chance of starting right off the bat. 2 of them, NY and Detroit, just drafted QBs first round, however, most teams will bench their rookie QBs in favor of seasoned veterans while the young one digests the playbook and refines his game behind the curtains. San Francisco has a terrible QB situation. Alex Smith has pretty much proven himself a bust and there is no one head and shoulders above the rest of them to step up. And Denver, well, Kyle Orton is not exactly a gleaming vote of confidence anyway you look at it.
Quick review: Delhomme is pretty fucking lucky to have a team like the Panthers put up with the bullshit sometimes. He's a good QB for here but that doesn't mean he'll just walk into any team and tear shit up day one like people think. There are a lot of factors to take in, notice any of Jake's "real" competition against Denver, Detroit, and NY will also have been newcomers to the team (Orton, Stafford, Sanchez, respectively). As far as SF is concerned, their QB situation is just so atrocious. Any other team he walks in he'd have the disadvantage of not knowing the playbook as thoroughly as his competition.
Thursday, June 11, 2009
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
DeAngelo Williams on Delhomme
Stumbled across this post right here.
Running back DeAngelo Williams defended the organization's decision to give starting quarterback Jake Delhomme a five-year, $42.5 million contract extension this off-season.
^DeAngelo, you're a running back. You actually do your job and are one of the best at what you do. You led the entire league in TDs IIRC last year. You are not the object of any kind of criticism and I remember for two years wishing John Fox would have a fucking epiphany out there on the sidelines during a game and give you more playing time because DeShaun "a feather could tackle me" Foster was like the RB version of Delhomme. So keep up the good work you're doing and kick some ass because if we make playoffs this year, I can guaran-damn-tee you will be a BIG reason why if you aren't injured.
Running back DeAngelo Williams defended the organization's decision to give starting quarterback Jake Delhomme a five-year, $42.5 million contract extension this off-season.
"We love Jake," Williams said. "That’s our quarterback. Contrary to what fans believe, or those non-fans that call themselves fans, Jake’s a great quarterback. He knows this system inside out."
Well it's nonetheless an emotionally charged endorsement for Delhomme, but DeAngelo proves himself a class act here. Whether or not I'm a fan of paying a guy who didn't play like 42 million dollars last year by a longshot, Williams is just a teammate and a contributor. It's his obligation to have faith in Delhomme, otherwise, he'd be just another selfish Terrell Owens.
That said, Delhomme's far from a great quarterback, and he's been put on a golden throne by the Panthers' organization as some kind of demigod with Joe Everyman-level QB talent. So it will be up to Williams to score like 25 touchdowns and rush for 1800 yards, <------while splitting time with Jonathan Stewart who scores 15 in addition and 1200 more rushing yards, to be the breadwinners for the offense. Delhomme's just a QB who, considering all 17 games the Panthers played last year that mattered, averaged more interceptions than touchdowns, had a sub 60% completion percentage, and a 79.6 QB rating. <----not exactly glaring characteristics of a great QB.
"Every guy has a bad game at some point in his career," Williams said. "Unfortunately for him it happened that game. But he’s a great quarterback. It happened to us. I know I'm going to have a bad game one of these times and they’ll be calling after my head."^DeAngelo, you're a running back. You actually do your job and are one of the best at what you do. You led the entire league in TDs IIRC last year. You are not the object of any kind of criticism and I remember for two years wishing John Fox would have a fucking epiphany out there on the sidelines during a game and give you more playing time because DeShaun "a feather could tackle me" Foster was like the RB version of Delhomme. So keep up the good work you're doing and kick some ass because if we make playoffs this year, I can guaran-damn-tee you will be a BIG reason why if you aren't injured.
Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Reality Check for Panthers fans (Re: Media "Respect" Level)
It seems to me there's this common feeling in the Panthers fanbase that is entirely sold on the hypothesis that our success is contingent on how many minutes ESPN spends sucking our dick comparative to sucking the Cowboys or Steelers.
The metric they usually use for this is the "radar". Apparently if we are "under" the "radar", Delhomme will throw 3 touchdowns a game, John Fox will use his brains when he gameplans every week, DeAngelo Williams will get through the front seven every single running play, and the teams we face will forget we are on the schedule, causing for a very unprepared performance against us because they didn't know the Carolina Panthers existed prior to the day they played us, because they watched ESPN and Mike Tirico didn't mention us at all as a contender on MNF.
In contrast, if we are "on" the "radar", Jake Delhomme will turn into an unresponsive shell of himself and throw dead ducks and passes that are so inaccurate you are sitting on your couch ready to fair catch the fucking ball because it seemed for a second there it was going to you through the fucking TV screen. John Fox will forgo the weekly film sessions, instead flying to Nevada and soliciting transvestite prostitutes on the Las Vegas Strip. DeAngelo Williams will lose his sense of motivation and spend most of his time eating Kentucky Fried Chicken so he can balloon up and become King Kong Bundy fat. The teams we are facing will also know exactly what we are doing and when we are doing it, because Mike Tirico said "watch out for those Panthers they are going to be good this year".
Too many times I'm reading a Panther fan comment that is something along the lines of this...
"I liek teh fact that we ar undurr teh radar. becuz we play our best football wen teams don't know who we arrr. now taht teh media is disrispectin us we shud win the 13 gamez we arn't playing prime time."
"OMFG i cant beleev dat ESPN ranked us 16th in the power rankings that is such a spit in teh face! Now DeAngelo's gonna run harder cuz dey said his teem wouldn't doo good and muh Panthers ar gonna whip sum ass"
^It's crap like this that gets posted that makes me almost lose complete faith in the ability of our fanbase to become anything more than a group of people with retarded superstitions and these baseless intuitions that gained ground all the way back in 2003 when nobody was talking about us and that the idea that we started blazing trails was a direct result of our being "under" the "radar".
It's this fucking illusion that people have convinced themselves THE ONLY way this franchise can gain success is if Tony Kornheiser says we're not anything to worry about on PTI, or we have little or no nationally televised and/or primetime games to play on our schedule.
...as much as I despise some of Fox's quirks (there are a lot of them), I still harbor a lot of good vibes and optimism for the guy. I never would expect him to believe for one minute that we're a slave to the media attention level we get or how many primetime games we're playing. However, if he actually does, that's how I'll know there is absolutely no chance for him to coach the Panthers to a superbowl championship, because, every single playoff game is a primetime and/or nationally televised football matchup, where you are recognized as a good team and people see you're a serious football club. And that's when I've lost absolutely all hope for the coaching staff and not the least bit open-minded to the thought of a future with John Fox as the coach.
The metric they usually use for this is the "radar". Apparently if we are "under" the "radar", Delhomme will throw 3 touchdowns a game, John Fox will use his brains when he gameplans every week, DeAngelo Williams will get through the front seven every single running play, and the teams we face will forget we are on the schedule, causing for a very unprepared performance against us because they didn't know the Carolina Panthers existed prior to the day they played us, because they watched ESPN and Mike Tirico didn't mention us at all as a contender on MNF.
In contrast, if we are "on" the "radar", Jake Delhomme will turn into an unresponsive shell of himself and throw dead ducks and passes that are so inaccurate you are sitting on your couch ready to fair catch the fucking ball because it seemed for a second there it was going to you through the fucking TV screen. John Fox will forgo the weekly film sessions, instead flying to Nevada and soliciting transvestite prostitutes on the Las Vegas Strip. DeAngelo Williams will lose his sense of motivation and spend most of his time eating Kentucky Fried Chicken so he can balloon up and become King Kong Bundy fat. The teams we are facing will also know exactly what we are doing and when we are doing it, because Mike Tirico said "watch out for those Panthers they are going to be good this year".
Too many times I'm reading a Panther fan comment that is something along the lines of this...
"I liek teh fact that we ar undurr teh radar. becuz we play our best football wen teams don't know who we arrr. now taht teh media is disrispectin us we shud win the 13 gamez we arn't playing prime time.""OMFG i cant beleev dat ESPN ranked us 16th in the power rankings that is such a spit in teh face! Now DeAngelo's gonna run harder cuz dey said his teem wouldn't doo good and muh Panthers ar gonna whip sum ass"
^It's crap like this that gets posted that makes me almost lose complete faith in the ability of our fanbase to become anything more than a group of people with retarded superstitions and these baseless intuitions that gained ground all the way back in 2003 when nobody was talking about us and that the idea that we started blazing trails was a direct result of our being "under" the "radar".
It's this fucking illusion that people have convinced themselves THE ONLY way this franchise can gain success is if Tony Kornheiser says we're not anything to worry about on PTI, or we have little or no nationally televised and/or primetime games to play on our schedule.
...as much as I despise some of Fox's quirks (there are a lot of them), I still harbor a lot of good vibes and optimism for the guy. I never would expect him to believe for one minute that we're a slave to the media attention level we get or how many primetime games we're playing. However, if he actually does, that's how I'll know there is absolutely no chance for him to coach the Panthers to a superbowl championship, because, every single playoff game is a primetime and/or nationally televised football matchup, where you are recognized as a good team and people see you're a serious football club. And that's when I've lost absolutely all hope for the coaching staff and not the least bit open-minded to the thought of a future with John Fox as the coach.
Monday, May 18, 2009
Return of the Kool Aid man.
Stop the presses
Panthers resident Kool Aid man and beat writer Gantt has awakened from his slumber to offer another tall order of monkey crap and pro-Fox fluff.
What do you have to say?
First things first, I haven't been fired, or left for greener pastures (as if that's possible). Just took some time off, at a time when not much is happening. Of course, that came at the expense of turning into a contractor/landscaper for a week or so, but hey, the place looks better.
Oh no we all knew EXACTLY where you were all this time. On vacation, that's good. ...See this is why I don't really respect these Carolina writers all that much. In New York sports journalists don't get to take prolonged haitus from writing short posts just because there's "nothing going on". Giant's beat writer Ralph Vacchiano even has a fucking TWITTER set up! The Panthers' writers, on the other hand, get weeks, months off to do whatever the fuck just because John Fox burns pictures of Saints in the hands of newly hired organization executives so nobody knows we talked to a fucking practice squad WR until they cut a deal.
Maybe it's that New York attitude of the unquentiable pursuit of career advancement. Or maybe it's the fact that the further and further south you go, the more people become kinda.... slower. Me, I could drive 70 miles down to South Jersey and people there can't keep the fucking pace up with me.
And in reality, there's not much going on right now. There's a lull between the draft and June OTAs (which start May 27), but there are a few odds and ends to address:
Nice, so we sacrificed talent replenishment, <=== a characteristic of good football team management, and suffered through the inadequacy of an aging, past-his-prime player because we owed it to Minter? Are you fucking kidding me? We might as well give him a plaque on the front door and a pension while we're at it. Gantt this isn't a fucking GM manufacturing plant this is the fucking gridiron. The more we put these players on a pedestal and make decisions in the best interest of them, instead of the team, the longer we are going to go nowhere.
(Although, I am intrigued at Jason Taylor signing a cut-rate deal with Miami, not New England. The Pats would love to have Peppers, but it sounds like they're struggling with the two-pronged compensation required to get him. Know this, they're lurking.)
Okay, first of all, New England does NOT need Julius Peppers by any stretch of the imagination. Their defense is well-talented and well-coached, they have no room for a spoiled crybaby prima donna defensive end who wants to play in a position where he doesn't have much of an assignment to take on blockers so he can roam free because he's pretty much all brute force and little technique to beat LTs which is why he is so hot and cold on the field.
Second of all, do you know what Kraft and Belichick will do to get Peppers? They will fucking rip Hurney off if they wanted to. I don't want to see the Patriots trading with us because they are some conniving cunning bastards, ...and they're good because of the way they do business.
Otherwise, if anybody wants to come help pull weeds and rocks out of the garden, let me know.
Ugh.
Panthers resident Kool Aid man and beat writer Gantt has awakened from his slumber to offer another tall order of monkey crap and pro-Fox fluff.
What do you have to say?
First things first, I haven't been fired, or left for greener pastures (as if that's possible). Just took some time off, at a time when not much is happening. Of course, that came at the expense of turning into a contractor/landscaper for a week or so, but hey, the place looks better.
Oh no we all knew EXACTLY where you were all this time. On vacation, that's good. ...See this is why I don't really respect these Carolina writers all that much. In New York sports journalists don't get to take prolonged haitus from writing short posts just because there's "nothing going on". Giant's beat writer Ralph Vacchiano even has a fucking TWITTER set up! The Panthers' writers, on the other hand, get weeks, months off to do whatever the fuck just because John Fox burns pictures of Saints in the hands of newly hired organization executives so nobody knows we talked to a fucking practice squad WR until they cut a deal.
Maybe it's that New York attitude of the unquentiable pursuit of career advancement. Or maybe it's the fact that the further and further south you go, the more people become kinda.... slower. Me, I could drive 70 miles down to South Jersey and people there can't keep the fucking pace up with me.
And in reality, there's not much going on right now. There's a lull between the draft and June OTAs (which start May 27), but there are a few odds and ends to address:
-- Peter King ranks the Panthers 18th in offseason power poll
Frankly, this borders on asinine. I'm not saying the Panthers are a top five team going into 2009 (their history points to bad luck and 7-9 after a good season), but to say they're in the bottom half of the league doesn't make sense.
Really, Darin? How fucking petty can we Panthers fans be? Who gives a fuck what Peter King has to say? We're getting pissed because an ESPN writer ranked a small market team in the lower half of the league? I hope you realize that we've followed up every single season we've made the playoffs thus far in franchise history with a .500 or below record the next year. So don't get all pissy at the guy because Carolina's not his favorite team and that history agrees with him and,... who gives a fuck? Seriously Darin if this is all you had to write about you could've stayed on vacation.
-- Mike Minter mulls run for Congress
The former Panthers safety is kicking around the idea of becoming a public servant.
Is this really breaking news?
Minter's as forthright as any player I've covered. He could have hung on in 2007, and collected checks, and been beloved as a player. But his knees were shot, he knew it, and he wasn't able to do his job. He's also a man of principle, who agonized over an early free agent decision, coming within hours of boarding a plane for Cleveland and more money to stay where he started.
Lol. Minter had many good years in a Panthers uniform, but alas, he aged and couldn't play anymore. ...just like every other player. He actually made a good decision for the Panthers as well as himself. His retirement led to the acquisition of Chris Harris for penny candy in order to fortify Safety.
Nice, so we sacrificed talent replenishment, <=== a characteristic of good football team management, and suffered through the inadequacy of an aging, past-his-prime player because we owed it to Minter? Are you fucking kidding me? We might as well give him a plaque on the front door and a pension while we're at it. Gantt this isn't a fucking GM manufacturing plant this is the fucking gridiron. The more we put these players on a pedestal and make decisions in the best interest of them, instead of the team, the longer we are going to go nowhere.
(Although, I am intrigued at Jason Taylor signing a cut-rate deal with Miami, not New England. The Pats would love to have Peppers, but it sounds like they're struggling with the two-pronged compensation required to get him. Know this, they're lurking.)
Okay, first of all, New England does NOT need Julius Peppers by any stretch of the imagination. Their defense is well-talented and well-coached, they have no room for a spoiled crybaby prima donna defensive end who wants to play in a position where he doesn't have much of an assignment to take on blockers so he can roam free because he's pretty much all brute force and little technique to beat LTs which is why he is so hot and cold on the field.
Second of all, do you know what Kraft and Belichick will do to get Peppers? They will fucking rip Hurney off if they wanted to. I don't want to see the Patriots trading with us because they are some conniving cunning bastards, ...and they're good because of the way they do business.
Otherwise, if anybody wants to come help pull weeds and rocks out of the garden, let me know.
Ugh.
Sunday, May 10, 2009
Panther Excuses: 2009 edition
in the event of a failed effort in the 2009 season, say for example, another 7-9 record or worse, the following are the excuses you're likely to hear.
It is what it is
The other team practices too
we picked a bad day to have a bad day
he didn't play well but it was only one game
...kind of the same retread we go through loss after loss year by year. Panther Journalists, beat writers, and self proclaimed "real" fans might be bought off by those shit copouts but the realest most down to earth Pantherites won't. It's clear Fox has wooed many supporters just based on his aloofness and good ole boy charm. He's almost like a cartoon character, quirky in many ways, but that's what people like about him. ...This is the same reason people like Jake Delhomme and will forget every single game he makes awful throws and turns the ball over more than once just because his personality is great and that's good enough for them.
It is what it is
The other team practices too
we picked a bad day to have a bad day
he didn't play well but it was only one game
...kind of the same retread we go through loss after loss year by year. Panther Journalists, beat writers, and self proclaimed "real" fans might be bought off by those shit copouts but the realest most down to earth Pantherites won't. It's clear Fox has wooed many supporters just based on his aloofness and good ole boy charm. He's almost like a cartoon character, quirky in many ways, but that's what people like about him. ...This is the same reason people like Jake Delhomme and will forget every single game he makes awful throws and turns the ball over more than once just because his personality is great and that's good enough for them.
Thursday, May 7, 2009
Best QBs: Last 16 years
Here are the top ten QBs in passer rating and pass yards the last 16 years. Players in bold ranked in the top ten in both categories. The # next to the team which they played for is what round they were drafted in.
| Year | Passer Rating | Passing Yards |
| 2008 | Philip Rivers (SD) 1st Kurt Warner (ARI) UD Drew Brees (NO) 2nd Peyton Manning ( Aaron Rodgers (GB) 1st Matt Schaub (HOU) 3rd Tony Romo (DAL) UD Jeff Garcia (TB) UD Matt Cassel (NE) 4th | Drew Brees (NO) 2nd Kurt Warner (ARI) UD Jay Cutler (DEN) 1st Aaron Rodgers (GB) 1st Philip Rivers (SD) 1st Peyton Manning ( Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Matt Cassel (NE) 4th David Garrard (JAX) 4th |
| 2007 | Tom Brady (NE) 6th Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) 1st David Garrard (JAX) 4th Peyton Manning ( Tony Romo (DAL) UD Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Jeff Garcia (TB) UD Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Kurt Warner (ARI) UD | Tom Brady (NE) 6th Drew Brees (NO) 2nd Tony Romo (DAL) UD Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Jon Kitna (DET) UD Peyton Manning ( Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th Derek Anderson (CLE) 6th Jay Cutler (DEN) 1st |
| 2006 | Peyton Manning ( Damon Huard (KC) UD Drew Brees (NO) 2nd Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Tony Romo (DAL) UD Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Philip Rivers (SD) 1st Tom Brady (NE) 6th Mark Brunell (WAS) 5th | Drew Brees (NO) 2nd Peyton Manning ( Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Jon Kitna (DET) UD Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Tom Brady (NE) 6th Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) 1st Philip Rivers (SD) 1st |
| 2005 | Peyton Manning ( Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) 1st Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Tom Brady (NE) 6th Jake Plummer (DEN) 2nd Trent Green (KC) 8th Byron Leftwich (JAX) 1st Drew Brees (SD) 2nd | Tom Brady (NE) 6th Trent Green (KC) 8th Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Eli Manning (NYG) 1st Kerry Collins (OAK) 1st Peyton Manning ( Drew Bledsoe (DAL) 1st Drew Brees (SD) 2nd Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th |
| 2004 | Peyton Manning ( Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Drew Brees (SD) 2nd Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) 1st Brian Griese (TB) 3rd Trent Green (KC) 8th Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Tom Brady (NE) 6th Brett Favre (GB) 2nd | Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Trent Green (KC) 8th Peyton Manning ( Jake Plummer (DEN) 2nd Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Jake Delhomme (CAR) UD Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Aaron Brooks (NO) 4th Tom Brady (NE) 6th |
| 2003 | Steve McNair (TEN) 1st Peyton Manning ( Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Trent Green (KC) 8th Jake Plummer (DEN) 2nd Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Aaron Brooks (NO) 4th Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th John Kitna (CIN) UD Tom Brady (NE) 6th | Peyton Manning ( Trent Green (KC) 8th Marc Bulger (STL) 6th Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th Brad Johnson (TB) 9th Tom Brady (NE) 6th Jon Kitna (CIN) UD Aaron Brooks (NO) 4th Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Tommy Maddox (PIT) 1st |
| 2002 | Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Brad Johnson (TB) 9th Trent Green (KC) 8th Peyton Manning ( Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) 6th Drew Bledsoe (BUF) 1st Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Tom Brady (NE) 6th Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th | Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Drew Bledsoe (BUF) 1st Peyton Manning ( Kerry Collins (NYG) 1st Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Tom Brady (NE) 6th Trent Green (KC) 8th Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Aaron Brooks (NO) 4th Steve McNair (TEN) 1st |
| 2001 | Kurt Warner (STL) UD Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Jeff Garcia (SF) UD Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Steve McNair (TEN) 1st Tom Brady (NE) 6th Donovan McNabb (PHI) 1st Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Chris Chandler (ATL) 3rd Peyton Manning ( | Kurt Warner (STL) UD Peyton Manning ( Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Aaron Brooks (NO) 4th Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Trent Green (KC) 8th Kerry Collins (NYG) 1st Jake Plummer (ARI) 2nd Jeff Garcia (SF) UD Doug Flutie (SD) 11th |
| 2000 | Brian Greise (DEN) 3rd Trent Green (STL) 8th Kurt Warner (STL) UD Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Jeff Garcia (SF) UD Peyton Manning ( Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Elvis Grbac (KC) 8th Doug Flutie (SD) 11th Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th | Peyton Manning ( Jeff Garcia (SF) UD Elvis Grbac (KC) 8th Daunte Culpepper (MIN) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Vinny Testaverde (NYJ) 1st Steve Beuerlein (CAR) 4th Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Kerry Collins (NYG) 1st Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th |
| 1999 | Kurt Warner (STL) UD Steve Beuerlein (CAR) 4th Jeff George (MIN) 1st Peyton Manning ( Brad Johnson (WAS) 9th Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Ray Lucas (NYJ) UD? Charlie Batch (DET) 2nd Gus Frerotte (DET) 7th Chris Chandler (ATL) 3rd | Steve Beuerlein (CAR) 4th Kurt Warner (STL) UD Peyton Manning ( Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Brad Johnson (WAS) 9th Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Rich Gannon (OAK) 4th Elvis Grbac (KC) 8th Jon Kitna (SEA) UD
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| 1998 | Randall Cunningham (MIN) 5th Vinny Testaverde (NYJ) 1st Steve Young (SF) 1st Chris Chandler (ATL) 3rd John Elway (DEN) 1st Neil O’Donnell (CIN) 3rd Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st Steve Beuerlein (CAR) 4th Brett Favre (GB) 2nd | Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Steve Young (SF) 1st Peyton Manning ( Jake Plummer (ARI) 2nd Randall Cunningham (MIN) 5th Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Trent Green (WAS) 8th Vinny Testaverde (NYJ) 1st Steve McNair (TEN) 1st |
| 1997 | Steve Young (SF) 1st Chris Chandler (ATL) 3rd Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Jeff George (OAK) 1st Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st John Elway (DEN) 1st Jim Harbaugh ( Brad Johnson (MIN) 9th Bobby Hoying (PHI) 3rd | Jeff George (OAK) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Warren Moon (SEA) UD John Elway (DEN) 1st Scott Mitchell (DET) 4th Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Tony Banks (STL) 2nd |
| 1996 | Steve Young (SF) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Brad Johnson (MIN) 9th John Elway (DEN) 1st Vinny Testaverde (BAL) 1st Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Jeff Hostetler (OAK) 3rd Ty Detmer (PHI) 9th | Mark Brunell (JAX) 5th Vinny Testaverde (BAL) 1st Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Jeff Blake (CIN) 6th Gus Frerotte (WAS) 7th John Elway (DEN) 1st Bobby Hebert (ATL) UD Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st Scott Mitchell (DET) 4th |
| 1995 | Jim Harbaugh ( Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st Erik Kramer (CHI) UD Scott Mitchell (DET) 4th Steve Young (SF) 1st Warren Moon (MIN) UD Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Jeff George (ATL)1st Chris Chandler (HOU) 3rd | Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Scott Mitchell (DET) 4th Warren Moon (MIN) UD Jeff George (ATL) 1st John Elway (DEN) 1st Jim Everett (NO) 1st Erik Kramer (CHI) UD Jeff Blake (CIN) 6th Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Dave Kreig (ARI) UD |
| 1994 | Steve Young (SF) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Dan Marino (MIA) 1st John Elway (DEN) 1st Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st Jim Everett (NO) 1st Jim Kelly (BUF) 1st Joe Montana (KC) 3rd Jeff George (ATL) 1st Craig Erickson (TB) 4th | Drew Bledsoe (NE) 1st Dan Marino (MIA) 1st Warren Moon (MIN) UD Steve Young (SF) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Jim Everett (NO) 1st Jeff George (ATL) 1st John Elway (DEN) 1st Jeff Hostetler (OAK) 3rd Joe Montana (KC) 1st |
| 1993 | Steve Young (SF) 1st Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st John Elway (DEN) 1st Phil Simms (NYG) 1st Joe Montana (KC) 3rd Vinny Testaverde (CLE) 1st Bubby Brister (PHI) 3rd Boomer Esiason (NYJ) 2nd Scott Mitchell (MIA) 4th Bobby Hebert (ATL) UD | John Elway (DEN) 1st Steve Young (SF) 1st Warren Moon (HOU) UD Boomer Esiason (NYJ) 2nd Jim Kelly (BUF) 1st Brett Favre (GB) 2nd Jeff Hostetler (OAK) 3rd Neil O’Donnell (PIT) 3rd Steve Beuerlein (ARI) 4th Troy Aikman (DAL) 1st |
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Minicamp commences tomorrow...
...And so it begins.
The worst part of the offseason, AKA THE most boring part that usually is boring, is over, it's actually been over since FA started, but the Panthers hadn't done a fucking thing there so it's felt longer for some of us cats fans.
Tomorrow Panthers players don the sweatpants and the blue or white (depends on what side of the field ya play on) pinneys and go through the drills.
It's somewhat of a "First look" at the players. First look at the draft picks going through drills, watching speed and shit like that, and also a new first look to see players this year who've been here previously, and take a look at guys who've hit the weight rooms and gotten stronger. ...you'll notice it when they're better at their drills than they were the year before.
Smith will probably haul in passes like it's week 7....
The worst part of the offseason, AKA THE most boring part that usually is boring, is over, it's actually been over since FA started, but the Panthers hadn't done a fucking thing there so it's felt longer for some of us cats fans.
Tomorrow Panthers players don the sweatpants and the blue or white (depends on what side of the field ya play on) pinneys and go through the drills.
It's somewhat of a "First look" at the players. First look at the draft picks going through drills, watching speed and shit like that, and also a new first look to see players this year who've been here previously, and take a look at guys who've hit the weight rooms and gotten stronger. ...you'll notice it when they're better at their drills than they were the year before.
Smith will probably haul in passes like it's week 7....
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